Wednesday, April 15, 2015

Update: More Victims, Court Date and the Mindf*ck that is "Tom"

It’s been about ten weeks since all of the women found each other.

During this time, I think its fair to say that regardless of the type of relationship we had with “Tom” and where are our lives are now, we have gone through a range of emotions.  There have been times that all of us have had to just take a break and times we’ve needed more questions answered.  Times with a surge of new info and times of quiet.

I have been so impressed with these amazingly strong women, the heart we all share for a few common goals, and how we have given each other the space we’ve needed at times.  We are always making sure everyone is okay.  This is a lot…but it’s our life.

It’s overwhelming to know some segment of your life could realistically be made into a Lifetime movie.  It’s something people joke about, but it is really true this time.  We are working with a reporter who is writing our story for an international publication and even she is amazed at the gravity of what “Tom Guida” is capable of, layer upon layer of deceit and fraud.

When I say that, it is a good time to bring up that the list of victims keeps growing and we know it will grow immensely once the story is public.  You see, his co-workers just found us and they are shocked.  He was so good at his fake career…he missed his calling as an actor, apparently.

When “Tom” wasn’t out saving the world with the Marines or FBI (which never happened), he was practicing as a Mental Health professional in some regard.  Sometimes he was a program supervisor only requiring him to have a masters, sometimes he was doing private therapy, sometimes he went by “Dr” and sometimes he didn’t, but he never had a license. 

So imagine the co-workers surprise to find out he faked it…the NYU degrees plastered on his walls, they were faked (our reporter confirmed NYU has no record of him.)  But beyond faking his education and status, they all talked about how good he was at his job.  More proof that he had the ability to become what he purports to be if only he had tried. 

Several of them also talked about sharing deep and personal experiences with “Tom.”  When they shared these confidences with him, he often shared his own (made up) stories or those of someone close to him.  So similar to how he swooped in to rescue Julia (and thank God for that), he used these same tactics with everyone.  They talked about the wonderful connection and personal advice he gave, the effective treatments he used with the patients, his positive outlook, how easy an employee, how great a supervisor and the fact that he knew so much…the same things that made us women think he was special and eventually fall in love with him. 

It’s a mindf*ck…there is simply no other word for it.  It was interesting watching them go through this process without having any connection to the world in which they knew him.  As they attempted to understand and process all of this new information, I assured them that we’ve been there. 

How is it possible for someone to be so completely amazing without anyone ever figuring out he was faking it?  How could Mental Health professionals be fooled?  How could smart and savvy women be fooled?  That’s the mindf*ck.

It’s nearly impossible to reconcile who he really is with the “Tom” we knew in person.  It’s nearly impossible to reconcile what we think we know about psychopaths, with the psychopath that is “Tom.”

Who he was with his romantic interests and who he was professionally are eerily similar.  There are slight tweaks here and there but overall, many of the same histories, stories and characteristics.  This was validating for us because it just goes to prove that this person is so good at his ‘craft’ that we aren’t just naïve, gullible and love-starved women.

 He became the dream guy and never showed us anything different…he didn’t mistreat us, just like he didn’t mistreat co-workers.  He was the man your mom told you to marry and he was the perfect find for the HR department at any mental health organization. 

Oh and the biggest mindf*ck of all for the co-workers?
They thought he was DEAD!  Did I forget to mention that?  Last they had seen “Tom” was shortly after the end-of-life party that Julia threw him.  They had taken up a collection of $1500-2000 cash to help him during his final weeks fighting that elusive brain tumor and terminal cancer.  Imagine their surprise.

Despite the fact we know ALL of this stuff about him now, legally, it’s hard to get law enforcement to run with this.  We have experienced a lot of passing-of-the-buck, and even when Penny went to file her bigamy charge, there was a “Boys will be boys” attitude. 

Which brings me to tomorrow.  He’s due in court for Bigamy.  Jenny will be there and many of us wonder if “Tom” will actually show up.  But we are hopeful because we know that Jenny will be assigned a prosecutor. We are just praying it is the right person who is going to connect with Jenny, and really hear her, see how huge this is and how “Tom” needs to be off the streets.

Please join us in sending as many positive thoughts her way (at 8:45a on 04.16.15) as possible! 

We know when the story is public…that is likely when law enforcement will not be able to look away…there has to be someone running for office who will hang their hat on this, if nothing else.  I look forward to world beginning to know who he is, but I also worry there will be SO many people who come forward. 

So far, we are only able to gather bits and pieces from 2006-2015, we know there are countless missing people in this story.

There are the other women who have been romanced by him and other wives who never got a divorce.  

There are employers who hired him based on false credentials.  

There are former patients who already were in a fragile place when he treated them, and regardless of how they are doing now, will feel violated. 

 There are other people who had various relationships with him, that gave him money for his fake cancer, who were robbed. 

 And then there is his family, who perhaps have turned a blind eye at times, but knowing how well “Tom” plays his role, will be blown away to find out they love and are related to such a psychopath.  

And there’s YOU, whoever you are reading this post, who was brought here by a google search or a facebook link because you knew him or you are supporting someone who did. 

Hopefully tomorrow is the first start to reclaiming what he took from us in whatever capacity he did. 

“Tom” loved justice, it’s time for us to get ours! 

If you or someone you love has been preyed upon by Tom Guida or Tom Gatto, please reach out and comment below or email us TGExposerGroup@gmail.com


Written by Deb

Monday, April 13, 2015

Deb: The full story on my relationship with Tom



This is my story…a story that must be told.  This is the story of how I became a high-value target for a clever and experienced psychopath.  And before you read further, let me help remove what you think you already know about psychopaths (that they’re all killers and visibly evil) and their victims (are weak, lonely and clueless) and that all their stories are neatly wrapped in a package like a lifetime movie, you’re wrong.  Psychopaths come in as many packages as their victims, and the types of relationships they feed on can be varied as well, everything from that back-stabbing co-worker to the relative that everyone knows is a piece of shit but tolerates because they are afraid of what will happen if they don’t.    

But this is my story and unfortunately, the similar story of countless women, not only across the country, but who were also involved with a psychopath known as Tom Guida or Gatto.

My story began when I got a message through an online dating site.  It went something like this:     “Good afternoon…My name is Tom and I am 41 and just relocated to Raleigh from New York.  I am a psychologist and work for the Government.  I am a Marine Reservist and just returned home from a long deployment in Afghanistan.  I want to meet someone who….”

And within those first three sentences he planted six sinister lies, which I wouldn’t know for months to come.  We swapped a few messages and then, per my normal, I asked him to give me a call.  I consider myself a pretty savvy online dater and quickly request a phone call because I like to make sure I’m talking to someone I might actually want to meet in person.  He called right away and we instantly hit it off.  We kept talking over the next couple of days and arranged to see each other that upcoming weekend. 

One of my mantras about trust is “I would rather trust someone and be wrong, than not trust them and be wrong.”  So even though some elements of Tom seemed almost too good to be true, I kept true to myself and that was to trust unless I could prove otherwise. 

Our first date was really great; we met at a nice restaurant and spent hours talking after dinner.  We had an instant connection, so much so, that someone in the restaurant said “Oh my gosh, you guys must have been together forever…you can just see the love!”  We laughed many times about how surprised she would be to know it was our first date. 

We saw each other again the next two nights, as well.  We abundantly had all the things I look for…conversation, connection and chemistry.  On the second date he told me he was actually a reservist in MARSOC, the special operations part of the Marines.  He said their last deployment was really hard on them because they had lost one of their guys and he didn’t expect they would be deployed overseas again before he retired in 21 months.  He said, since they were reservists, they usually just do short term missions that last 3 days to 3 weeks.  He asked me if I could handle that, along with intermittent travel with his civilian job.  I assured him I could because I am fairly independent, confident and I am not needy at all.

He also explained that his civilian job was with the Critical Incidence Response Group, which when googled, is part of the FBI.  He never told me he was an FBI agent, per se…maybe he thought that would be too unbelievable, or that I wouldn’t figure it out, but by virtue of being a part of CIRG-you are agent.  He said he was the group leader, a forensic psychologist and used some of his military training in counterterrorism within his civilian job.  He knew a lot about terrorism, and actually a lot about everything, and since I had no experience with anyone in today’s military, or a secretive job, I didn’t know how to identify any holes in his story.

The following weekend he had made big plans for us…I bought a new dress and gorgeous, sexy shoes for what promised to be the nicest dates ever.  I was excited.  The morning of the date, I got a text message saying he had been called into work and told to bring a packed bag.  He said they were going to help at the Washington Mudslide (according to the CIRG website, that all fell within their duties) and he apologized profusely.  He said his crazy schedule always got in the way of things when he found someone he really liked and hoped I would understand.  Being a very easy-going person, I actually encouraged him knowing he would be a help to the first responders, assuring him I would be rooting for him from afar and see him when he returned home. 

Only he never did.  From Washington, it was on to Texas and then on to Philly.  While in Philly, he said his Marine Team got activated and then it was one intricate string of lies after another on where he was and what he was doing.  When I would start to get antsy about the unfulfilled promises and cancelled visits, he would assure me they might get to come home soon, “so we can start our life together.”  I never intended to get into a long-distance relationship, but I had somehow found myself in one.

I am a very supportive, understanding and easy-going girlfriend.  I don’t make demands, I’m even-tempered, am always interested in my man’s work and can easily put my man first in the relationship.  Regardless of that, there was never a day in our 8-month relationship that I felt everything he said was true, but the unnerving thing was I could never prove it wasn’t true.  My plan was to validate once we got to spend more time together, only he cleverly made sure that never happened.  Because I am analytical in nature, I would tell myself that it was my brain that had doubts, not my gut.

During our time apart, I have to admit I have never felt such a connection to someone.  There were times, although we were miles apart where we felt what each other felt, communicating on levels I have never communicated with anyone else.  It was during this separation that we really began to love each other.  He was retiring from the Marines in less than two years and I convinced myself that I could handle it in exchange for a lifetime of such multi-leveled communication and love.

Of course there were many times we planned trips to see each other…even times when he claimed he was getting discharged, only to have him call at the last minute and say they had changed his orders…again.  He always made it seem as if he had zero control over his ability to see me because that was just the nature of the marines and the military wives I personally knew, said that is really the way it was for their men.  But in spite of this, HE was so consistent; I never had to wonder if I would hear from him.  Besides a lot of texting, he called every day and we would talk about politics, terrorism, spirituality, psychology, relationships and food…we both loved to cook and ate the same restrictive diet, so we talked about food a lot!

The whole time I lived with the gut-wrenching feeling that he might be married, that he might not be who he said he was.  I googled…often.  Not. One. Thing. Showed. Up.  Ever.   And every time he gave me a snippet of information about his family, his career, his past or his present, I would try to search the internet to see what I could find. 

I haven’t mentioned yet that I knew he lied about his name.  I saw the name on his credit card as Tom Guida, but he had told me his name was Thomas Joseph Gatto.  When I asked him about this, he said the credit card was a fake name they issued him for work.  I googled both names…again, all of the time and still nothing would show up.  Before our first and second date, I even googled how to read someone’s facial expressions to see if they are lying…he passed with flying colors. 

Shortly after I met him I was finishing up training to be a Dating Coach.  According to experts on this sort of psychopathy, the fact I was a Dating Coach and I am independent, not-needy and don’t have family, made me become an irresistible high-value target.  I never could figure out, if he was indeed a con-man, where the payoff lied.  I had educated myself about con-men, narcissists, sociopaths and the likes and it seemed they were always after money or sex.  He portrayed to make more money than me and we hadn’t had sex, nor did we even talk about sex, so I took that as a positive sign that maybe this could all be true.  I now know for some psychopaths, the thrill of pulling off the ruse is what excites them.  As they are able to deceive more and more people, they challenge themselves by finding more challenging targets and since I asked questions from the start, I became even more of a challenge. 

I did see him one other time.  I flew up to Philly and visited him in NJ where he claimed to be stationed out of Ft Dix.  He had about 16 hours of leave, so it was a last minute trip and we stayed in a hotel off base and he had a rental car.  When he went to check into the hotel, I looked for the rental car information…I was looking for clues, both to validate who he was or confirm he was a liar.  But again, I found nothing.  He left me alone in the hotel room twice and again, nothing.

During this visit is when we declared our love.  We had acknowledged many times that we loved each other without really saying it but vowed to wait until we could say it face to face to say it out loud.  It was such a sweet relief to be able to finally say those three little words out loud and to hear it from him as well.  Our love-making felt like a spiritual experience and certainly unlike anything I had experienced before, I thought it was because our connection was so unique. 

The visit went well in many ways, but it was far too short for me to get answers to the growing list of questions I had in my head.  I returned home both excited and a little unsettled.  We promised that we would just do last minute trips in the future even if we only had a few hours together. 

Tom was always kind to me, we never had any disagreements or arguments.  He was sweet, but not overly so, he was supportive, caring, respectful and seemingly sincere.  He made you feel like a better version of yourself and a better person just for knowing him.  He treated all women with respect…to our faces anyway.  The thing he wasn’t…was available.  And eventually, that feeling of being coupled yet alone began to get to me.  By this time I had moved to the city and I wanted to explore it, but being the faithful person I am I didn’t feel right going out when he was hard at work protecting our country. 

I was always very careful who I told about Tom.  There were two reasons for this.  One was I was convinced that it might not be safe for Tom if the general public knew about his secretive jobs.  The other reason was I wasn’t sure it sounded very believable.  I know this should have been a flashing light to me and in some ways it was, but I was still waiting for that illusive proof.  My two best friends…one a married woman and the other a single man both reassured me that his story could be true, after all, someone had these jobs, didn’t they?  My friend who is a therapist also said she had no concerns about his story.  The thing I’ve come to realize about this is that they felt I deserved a man the caliber of the one Tom pretended to be.  They wanted to believe it too, because they want the best for me. 

I also joked many times that I would not condone a client going on such blind faith with a date.  While you might question my credibility as a dating coach, this is both a good example of why it’s good to have someone objective and knowledgeable looking out for you, AND it’s also a reminder that while you are in the midst of emotional, oxytocin-induced situations, you can’t always see clearly. 

It was actually a man I don’t know very well that said “you know your boyfriend is full of shit, right?”  Now, I usually couldn’t trust what Ryan, and admitted player, said any more than I could throw him, but I think I just needed to hear someone say it out loud.  I knew in that instant that what my gut was telling me was true.  Somehow I gave myself permission to not wait for proof and go with my own gut instead of overanalyzing and wanting everything in black and white. 

This was when I pushed Tom for a visit, it was a Sunday and I knew he would have some free time.  He texted that morning with details an impromptu Veterans celebration he had thrown together that morning.  He and his men were going to the VA hospital for “Project Happiness” so there no way he could see me.  He was clever because wouldn’t it be selfish of me to make a demand when he was doing something so ‘noble?’  But I saw completely through his lying scheme and the tactic behind it.

So I decided I would go to the local CIRG office the next day to just ask for him, only I couldn’t find one.  Through a friend of a friend, I found out that FBI agents can arrange verification at their office because it’s common for family and friends to doubt someone is really in the FBI.  I also checked up on other things he had told me about his time in Raleigh, only nothing was panning out. 

I never quite called him a liar, because at this point, I still didn’t really know for sure.  I asked him to arrange a verification at the FBI and he refused.  I explained how I had to go on blind faith with him and I needed something.  I even asked to talk to his sister, which I knew he could possibly fake but I was willing to try it, and he refused that too.  He never got angry, he never gas-lighted me, he never tried to talk me into believing him, he just said it wasn’t possible. 

So I told him I would have no choice but to end our relationship.  He never fought, argued or begged.  He simply stated “I understand.  I wish you ever success and happiness.”

This was my WTF moment!  I think I eloquently replied “wow!”  He said “Goodbye.”  That was it.  I have gone out with men ONE TIME and had them give me a more heartfelt farewell.

My WTF moment truly turned into my AHA moment.  I knew then my gut had been more than right…he was a liar…and almost assuredly a psychopath who had faked everything, including his feelings.  After a day to catch my breath, I put on my own amateur-investigator hat and started digging to see what I could possibly find.  

A simple $1 free trial of Been Verified turned out to be quite helpful.  One reason he didn’t come up before was he lied about his age.  He’s actually 52.  And, although he had told me he had only been married once for five years and had been divorced for five, according to what I could see on this very skeleton report, he was married two times within a short amount of time.   By googling his cell phone number I found where people had the ability to file insurance for him as a therapist, and he had offered his help as a therapist during Hurricane Sandy.  But that was still pretty much it.

I also contacted the Stolen Valor guys and Scott, the Fake Marine investigator, is still investigating him.  My working theory became that he was just in Raleigh for a conference, probably practiced as a therapist at an institution (although he’s not licensed anywhere) and lived with the latest wife in NY or NJ.   I didn’t figure there was a way to prove my theory, nor would it matter much.  I didn’t let myself get stuck on the unanswered questions and actually found him easier to get over than I would have thought…I guess because I really did guard part of my heart until I knew I could believe him.   I moved on.

I had done one other thing.  I had my best friend Holly, send a Facebook message to Jenny.  Jenny was Tom’s wife before last.  Holly simply included a picture of Tom and me and asked if she knew this man. 

We heard nothing…for a few months, anyway.

One Sunday morning, Holly woke up to a Facebook message fromJPenny.  Her reply said most everything we needed to know.  She said she knew this man and he was her husband, married to multiple women, not a marine, not a psychologist and does not have cancer.  Our heads were spinning.

Jenny didn’t know about the “other” folder in your Facebook messages until the night before.  Someone happened to mention it to her and guess what she found?  Not only did she find my message but multiple messages from other women who were also wondering just who Tom Guida really is.  This is how we formed our PTSD Group…Post Tom Stress Disorder. 

As we collectively shared the details of our relationships with Tom, the proof of his lies, and the pain and healing that have happened since, we have learned he was far more disturbed than we ever suspected.  The gist of the lies boil down to this:  he was rejected by the Marines and never got over it.  He never went to real college, never obtained a PhD and therefore could not have legally practice in PA, NJ and NY.  Despite that, several of the women visited him at the places he worked where the name on his door and letterhead read Dr. Tom Guida.   He of course, was never an FBI agent or part of CIRG.  He also claimed with two of the women, shortly after meeting them, that he had an inoperable brain tumor with just months to live, for which they sacrificed time with their family and money in order to take care of him.  He also verifiably has two current wives (he lives with one who is blind to his lies), but we are fairly certain he has at least four.  He is a collector of women, never breaking up with any and certainly never divorces anyone before marrying the next.  Penny is still legally his wife even though she hasn’t seen him since 2009.

The women in our group are strong…we have become fast friends and agree that Tom has great taste in women.  We formed a bond and found a purpose…to help stop Tom from preying on other women.   We are not after retribution, repayment or revenge, but instead wish to help the countless women he has left in his deceitful wake that are suffering in embarrassed silence.  We also hope to support the current wife once the legal consequences catch up to Tom, as well as, help her and Penny get annulments.  We are here to be supportive, find healing together and find a way not to just stop Tom Guida, but to stop as many of the Tom Guida’s out there that we can.

And while I know it was somewhat of a career risk to come forward with my story, I have to be true to myself for several reasons.  One is that I preach and practice authenticity in every aspect of my life.  I just can’t live with having a ‘dirty little secret.’  Another is that I know this experience makes me a better Dating Coach and if anything, helps me see the value of having a coach who will help you see more clearly than you can in the blindness of new love.  Third is that because the nature of online dating is the perfect playing field for predators, we need more education and legislation to help people be more aware and the perpetrators be held accountable.  Lastly, I need to feel the freedom that being open affords me.    

Being open about this makes me feel vulnerable but it also shows you my humanity.  None of us are immune to someone who studies the art of such deceit day in and day out.  The moment we believe we are impenetrable is the moment a predator will realize you have left the window open for them.  

Going forward, you will find this accelerates my goals as a dating coach and also motivates me to work hard on changing the climate of dating.  Sometimes that will be simply by sharing my story and teaching others.  In other ways it will be lending a hand to those who need support after a similar experience.  Lastly, it will be to help and support the passing of new legislation like the “rape by deception” law which will hold accountable people who misrepresent themselves to others in a romantic relationship.   But mostly I did it for me and the gals in my PTTD group…I refuse to be a silent victim when they are so bravely and publicly sharing their own stories. 

Going forward, I plan to stay true to myself by still trusting others…I just won’t let my brain tell my gut to shut up next time…I feel more empowered than ever now that I know how to listen to it! 

And I will stand…stand for those preyed upon. 

I will stand…stand for myself.

 Most of all, I will stand…stand for Truth.  

If you or anyone you know has been victimized by Tom Guida/Gatto, please contact us TGExposeGroup@gmail.com